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the government borrow more money effectively raising the debt ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill tonight. what's behind this house republican plan. >> bill, a lot of g.o.p. frustration has been based on the fact the senate has not passed a budget. so republicans are trying to force it house speaker john boehner told house members, quote: before there is any long-term debt alowe time for a budget to get done. >> he our hope is to pass something very early so the senate can take action as well. i wouldn't put any jeopardizing of the economy there. shows that it is a very rational, put us on a better path and i would think all the american pub
a generic body image. >>> house republicans are offering a debt ceiling deal rather than risk a new financial crisis. they will allow new government borrowing for three months, but they insist the senate must pass a budget within those three months. and to add more pressure to get a deal, they promise to withhold paychecks for whichever chamber, house or senate, doesn't pass a budget. >>> officials have issued a high surf advisory for the northern california coast this weekend. the good news -- that's just about perfect for 24 of the world's top surfers who are waxing down their boards for a big wave competition in half moon bay that starts on sunday. the bad news -- the other seven billion people in the world can't swim there. >>> that is the news. guys? back to you guys. >> thank you. >> you're from that area, aren't you -- >> yeah, yeah, no. i wouldn't ever surf. >> you're in the seven billion part. >> we'll be on the beach. >> yeah. >> i used to sit on half moon bay and watch it. exactly. >>> dylan dreyer has another check of the forecast. >> good morning, guys. a couple of birt
a plan that would gradually deal with these problems. you lift the debt ceiling because you have resolved what is standing in the way. must be a smarter way to approach this. tracy: i get what you're saying. you need some sort of litmus and some sort of bar. but at the same time the markets moved on from this. if they were that concerned we would be down more than 20 points today. we still have a pretty darn good credit rating even though moody's keeps threatening to drop it. they threatened before. if we were in such dire straits, i think you would be feeling it in other places and really aside from us blow harding about it on the news all the time. i'm not sure anybody cares. >> well, that is a great point. markets are reading a lot of different tea leaves and have a lot of different concerns. the first point i would make, keep in mind the u.s. is still a better economy than so many of the economies around the world. and so we benefit from that. we remain the a safe haven at the moment, until we aren't anymore. the question is, when will that happen. the second point is, markets have ma
with them rather than stand with home common ground. >> eric: how about dealing with the debt ceiling and mr. boehner he won't negotiate anymore? >> the president is going to have to reach across the aisle and demonstrate sincerely he will listen and work. he has to show up for negotiations. he was an absent president when it came to negotiating some of the solutions to the big problems during his first term. he has to be part of the solution and work with congress to try to get things done. we watched george w. bush do it when he did it in a controversial election, first term and second term. first term he reached across the aisle and got tax cuts for everyone even though the united states senate switched majority control from republicans to democrats in may of his first year in office. then he worked across the aisle to get education reform done. it can happen, but it takes a president who is willing to be presidential and really lead rather than just demand. >> eric: do you think he can take a page from george w. bush. what did you advise the president at that time and what lessons from t
, deals contingent upon raising the debt ceiling and you yourself, related to debt or budget related maneuvers. and what many people are curious about the new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate that seems to conflict with the entire hire in the modern era of the presidents and the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling and doesn't it suggest we're going into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history. getting votes for the debt ceiling is difficult and votes in in town are difficult. i went through this last year. what is different we never saw a situation like we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. >> lou dobbs is the host of lou dobbs tonight on the fox business network. lou, welcome back. what an extraordinary exchange we saw the president have on that issue. basically his position was, we're raising the debt ceiling whether congress wants to or not. i'm not negotiating with them on it. i'm not followin
to negotiate over the debt ceiling. if he believes that, he's sniffing the ozone. the reality is he has to. he has to come to the table and put something on the table to deal with the other side of just increasing the ability for the government to spend money. he's going to have to talk about the cutting side of this equation. that's the reality for the white house. the reality for the congress is they're going to have to talk about this in the context of revenue, and moving forward, not just on the debt side, but also on the everyday aspects of the social programs. >> michael, you think republicans win on a message that says we're just not going to pay our bills? screw it, we're going to one up our credit cards and we're not going to responsibly come to the table and talk about how we go forward more responsibly. >> we are so far beyond messages. >> it's not a message, it's a fact, we have already spent the money. >> the fact is the president will have to deal. he can't sit in the white house and go woe is me. >> that's not what he's been doing at all. >> he has to put something on the table
some crises that we're going to have to face, the debt ceiling, we're going to have to deal with sequestration as well as the concurrent resolution, and i'm convinced that in order to get something moving forward in a positive way, that speaker boehner's going to have to release republicans from just being bound to the party and do what's best for the country. so i hope this is a breakthrough. as for having this as a victory, if it's a victory for anything, it's a victory for our country. people can go to sleep at night knowing that god forbid if they have a catastrophe in their country, they may not be able to depend on the local people to come forward or the states, but they can depend on their congress to be there as historically we have always been. this is the first time we have had any type of controversy in getting it done, but late, delayed, yes, but was it done, you bet your life. >> new york congressman charlie rangel. thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> so the final outstanding issue involving president obama's inauguration next monday is now
congress deal with the debt ceiling? >> i hope it does not come to that but if it has to, it must. you know we can't let extremists put us in default and play chicken with a full faith and credit with the united states of america. that's what they are. when people say let's go into default. when i hear people who are elected to congress say let's go into default. i say this person is from some other planet. this person is not from this planet. the notion that we would do that boggles the mind and the good common sense of the vast majority of americans. >> what is your perspective on america's melting pot being better reflected in small towns? what would urban leaders learn from small town mayors? >> i mean -- i think we're enriched. i know i am. my kids have grown up. i tell people my kids have been in the homes of iranians, koreans, mexicans, italians, and greeks, muslims, we're enriched when we can experience other cultures and people and other perspectives. i think you're seeing the fastest growing places of immigration are in the small towns across the country. at first, there is tensio
of that is the financial crisis of 2008. so why strike a deal on the debt ceiling when you can just eliminate it? they push from democrats in washington. dennis: a man charged with stealing $400,000 in copy toner. lori and tracy are up next. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased sperm count; ankle, feet, or body swelling; enlarged or painful breasts; problems breathing
we shouldn't have gotten into this because the debt ceiling should be part of the prior deals. >> as it was in every previous administration. >> right. >> as we know. eliot, good to visit with you this morning. talk to you again soon. >> have a good one >> bill: eliott spitzer, former governor of new york. former co- -- or host here on current tv. good friend, political commentate commentate, writes for slight, follow on twitter @eliotspitzer. [ music ] destined to take them over. ♪ ♪ the sirius xm satellite radio in the 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. the new ram 1500. motor trend's 2013 truck of the year. @Ñhd with the explosive yet reflective, jerry springer and we'll find out which one of these camera guys is a secret baby daddy. >> only on current tv. [ music ] >> this is "the bill press show." >> all right. in the next hour, evan mcmorrison turo from talking points memo in studio as a friend of bill and we'll be joined by congress woman january shakowski from illinois, talking about the govern
spending cuts with republicans as part of a deal to raise the federal debt ceiling both sides are trying to prepare for and even avert a potential default. white house says if it happens it will pay revenue to pay bills in order they are received what you said. for the past year, pennsylvania senator pat toomey and handful of others in the house and senate are pushing legislation would prioritize which bills get paid. arguing if you pay the interest first on the debt, default can be avoided and there would be enough money left over from incoming revenues to pay social security checks and salary for active duty military. that is what the republicans are pushing. that is what toomey is trying to say would be a good way to go for the last year-and-a-half, jon. jon: what is the reaction to the administration, or the administration's reaction i should say to what senator toomey is proposing? >> reporter: somewhere between dismissive and ridicule. the treasury department dump all over this the administration official position legislation to quote, prioritize payments would amount to default an
the debt ceiling in the first place. so that doing the rational thing could actually simply look rational when they chose to do it. >> right, exactly. they -- if they had never made a big deal about this to begin with then they wouldn't be in this situation. now, obama kind of aided and abetted them because he wanted it to be the debt ceiling leverage that he kind of wanted this grand bargain in 2011. that never happened. since then, he has been consistent saying i am not going to mess around with the debt ceiling anymore. and good for him on that, you're right. as newt gingrich said, wisely and moderately and reasonably, he said don't pick this fight because you're going to lose it. don't create a national crisis around this that will only wind up with you caving. so just do it quietly, early, the sooner you do it the less attention and less people notice that you -- that all of this happened. >> so the only thing i would say about all of this, some of us have this sense of relief when we dealt with the fiscal curve. and now with the debt ceiling, if we blow through these without a crisi
, president reagan, president clinton, all signed a debt deal that were contingent on raising the debt ceiling. you yourself have done that. three times those were related to budget reduction maneuvers. what chuck and i and many are curious on is your adamant desire not to negotiate when that seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern american presidents with the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling, and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because nobody is talking about how to resolve this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history, getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult. and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year. but what's different is we never saw a situation, as we saw last year, in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position, that we came within a few days of defaulting. and the fact of the matter is that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fashion, where the notion was, you know what, we might default unless we get 100% of what we want. that
-term debt ceiling increase, and he was part of a group of five conservatives who blessed this deal on friday morning. jeb hencer ling of texas and steve of louisiana and jordan of ohio and ryan. so it remains to be seen whether that will be kind of a center of power going forward. host: as far as those five signing on to this deal, what's been talking about the members, especially on the republican side and -- will all of them go along with this? >> it's going to be tough for them, because they have to get 218 votes. the democrats have already signaled they are not going to provide any votes for this on their side of the aisle. i would say that would be so difficult for them to do when you have, you know, the last four chairman of the republicans senate committee saying they are onboard with this, it doesn't give, i mean, it seems it would be difficult for so. more ranking file members to say this is not good enough. i mean, it seems the right ones were onboard with this in a pretty significant way. >> i guess the timetables of this, where do we see next week and where do we go from there? >
because of scheduling and needing to deal with the debt ceiling and the looming sequester and house republicans concerned that if they do anything on tax reform, that they may leave themselves open to the senate not taking action. therefore, they have taken in on popular vote for no reason. >> first of all we have to solve this debt crisis in terms of sequestration and in terms of the full faith and credit of the u.s. and. we are not going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that cannot basically be moved for what we need to do in the next six weeks. so that would leave adequate time to tackle the longer-range problems. we will not publish tax reform in the next six weeks, but we need to essentially deal with the sequester. since we find a balanced approach that is going to raise the trillion dollar surplus to it. that is why i have some optimism. because we need to face up to the next six weeks and solve it and then move on. >> [inaudible question] i'd like to ask you about one of the big things involving entitlement reform. how big of a package wo
trying to figure out how to deal with the debt ceiling. congressional republicans that is. and here in washington everybody gearing up for the big inauguration. meanwhile, very striking cbs/"new york times" poll out this morning revealing that the american people are overwhelmingly behind the common sense new measures to reduce gun violence unveiled this week by president obama and vice president biden, 92% of americans saying they support a universal background check. 63% support a ban on high-capacity magazines. 53% supporting a ban renewing of the ban on assault weapons. the american people are ready for action. on another front, two high-profile celebrities proving that they are nothing but big, fat liars today. lance armstrong lying about the tour de france and manti te'o lying about his girlfriend. all of that coming up right here on current tv. right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your health
there not be crisis after crisis dealing with the debt ceiling. >> you said last night, you've got to put on a yogi bear costume to make sense of it. >> returning a lot to shareholders. >> one wonders. >> $12 million they're talking about. >> they have been increasing, of course, ever since the huge cuts that had to take place. what is it going to be now, four years ago, right? >> that period, $6. >> yeah. >> march of '09. amazing, coming up on the four-year anniversary. >> do you ever worry about your paycheck? >> yeah. i think you worry about money you had in any bank account or anything. sure. ge was to cushifocused in the ff '08, that was the moment where it could all come to -- >> that was after the ge bailout. >> sorry, not to revisit the -- >> we have to remind people where we came from. tim geithner leaving, david faber is worried about his paycheck. >> speaking of paychecks, let's talk morgan stanley. wall street firm reporting fourth quarter earnings 45 earlier on squawk, james gorman said his firm is poised to improved market environment. which shows a lot of promise if uncertainty is re
increase. >> you also will need to have a budget in place in order to come to that debt ceiling debate as the republicans have laid it out at this point and you're also going to be dealing with the deficit and all of the other issues. so are you basically saying you don't think anything's changed here? >> no. i think the republicans have realized it's a political problem and a real problem if we jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states. i'm not sure they understand we need to pay our bills. they seem to be confused if they only proposed three months. a clean debt ceiling is the only way to go. when we get to march 2nd and the sequester deadline approaches again, we need to focus on a balanced debt ceiling focus. that's what this is about. the americans made a decision. they embrace president obama's idea that we should have revenue and closed tax loopholes for the wealthiest pay more and reduce spending in a balanced way. >> i think what people also hoped that they were voting for was the democrats and republicans would get in a room together and wo
of the neighbors, cooler heads will prevail now between now and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have you nan hit in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public in a way i have never see
the way he is handling the debt ceiling, i think he understands that he has a lot of high cards he is going to play those, and the republicans are in some disarray here. tom cole in the house leadership say half the republicans voted against the fiscal cliff deal secretly hoped it passed. we've entered a new kind of framework. guns are a different story. it's going to be tough, maybe impossible to pass all the different stuff the president proposed, and some like the background checks, 90% of americans are for them. nra numbers are for them. one really big thing is happening. the old line that this is about conphysician cat iing people's guns taking guns away from hunters has been opposed because this has been too vivid a tragedy, and the president has been so swift and so clear. >> and anybody who goes back and looks at the heller case, the d.c. gun case, knows that the supreme court has made it very clear this is want about confiscating your guns, but some restrictions on military weapons are quite legal and constitutional. >> they have to be. looking in the 1930s we had a big pr
, quote, we are not out of the woods yet, calling ongoing battles over spending cuts and the debt ceiling critical watersheds. >>> elsewhere, a troubling new report finds more than one in four workers are dipping into retirement funds to keep up with their current bills. apparently folks in their 40s are most likely to do that. >>> some good news, though, on the housing front. new numbers show home prices rose 7.5% in 2012, the most in six years thanks to improving demand and fewer foreclosures. >>> swiss group swatch is adding some sparkle to the brand, scooping up harry winston's luxury line of jewelry and watches for about $1 billion. >>> toyota has once again dethroned general motors as the world's top-selling automaker, selling just under 10 million vehicles last year. >>> coca-cola is taking some heat for its new ad campaign encouraging people to come together to fight obesity. critics say coke is just doing damage control to combat its own contribution to the country's growing obesity problem. >>> we'll find out what facebook's big mystery is in a much-hyped media event today. rumo
the way. we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman with a look at some of the other stories ahead this morning. >>> we'll be talking about the golden globes. ben affleck didn't get nominated for an oscar, but his surprise win at the globes may be vindication. we'll have that, the other surprises, and the big snubs in a live report. >>> he's known for his role on "breaking bad," but actor steven michael casada has a new role to play, local school board member. you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others
about the confirmation hearing issues and then the fiscal, the debt ceiling which is fast approaching as well. >> definitely that dance card is getting filled up pretty quickly so early in the year and he hasn't even been inaugurated. also in that article, senator marco rubio preparing his own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. he discussed how republicans could face some pushback from latinos because of their stance on immigration reform. he said this, quote. we are going to have a struggle speaking to a whole segment of the population about our principles of limited government and free enterprise if they think we don't want them here, alluding to those who might benefit from the d.r.e.a.m. act. so republicans have their own pr campaign to conduct with latinos on immigration reform, but how is the president going to combat republicans who want to see a more piece meal approach as we move forward here? >> reporter: i think we've seen the way the president has handled other recent challenges from his republican opposition when you consider just the fiscal cliff hanger as it were with campa
deficit reduction deals that were contingent upon or in the context of raising the debt ceiling. you, yourself, four times have done that. three times, those were related to deficit reduction or budget maneuvers. what chuck and i and i think many people are curious about is this new, adamant desire on your part not to negotiate, when that seems to conflict with the entire history in the modern era of american presidents and the debt ceiling, and your own history on the debt ceiling. and doesn't that suggest that we are going to go into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about how to resolve this? >> well, no, major, i think if you look at the history, getting votes for the debt ceiling is always difficult, and budgets in this town are always difficult. i went through this just last year. but what's different is we never saw a situation as we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. and the fact of the matter is, is that we have never seen the debt ceiling used in this fash
and the time we deal with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. unanimitydon't have in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but r
problem we need to deal with, martha, the misuse of the term default that emerged in the last debt ceiling crisis in august of 2011 when used on both sides of the aisle, when we reach the point the united states didn't have anymore borrowing authority that automatically meant default. it doesn't. that was a false definition then. it is a false definition now. we have enough money to operate essential components of this government that we can go on for a very long time. this isn't a crisis that hits a deadline that turns it into default. furthermore the economy of the united states, if we continue on this trillion dollar plus a year increase in our national debt does eventually hit a place of insolvency. that is what i fear. that is what most conservatives fear, martha. martha: but the president is basically saying to you, and the rest of the republicans in the house, that he is going to raise the debt limit. that the debt limit is going up. there won't be any negotiations over spending cuts that might offset that increase. there is going to be no negotiation. so what will you do? >> first
ceiling bill that was undermined from the beginning, no deal was reached, sequestration, massive cuts to our national security, our national defense. would be inflicted. and massive cuts to medicare. our leaders responded to me that , gee, the democrats will never allow the cuts to medicare, the sequestration to medicare, $300 billion or so, they'll never allow that. that's why we know the supercommittee will reach an agreement. i advised them that that would not happen. there would be no agreement. of course they're willing to have $300 billion or so cut to medicare because obamacare cut $00 billion from medicare, from our seniors' care, without a single republican vote. so the only way the democrats could run a commercial last year, 2012 with any sincerity at all saying, gee, republicans are cutting medicare, would be if they prevent republicans from reaching agreement with the president, democrats, and then they'll run in in commercials in 2012 and blame republicans and say, see, they didn't reach an agreement. they wanted to cut seniors and help their rich friends. as some of us m
and not even just talking about the debt ceiling, but if he is to do -- with regard to the gun control and universal background checks and he is going to have to spend a great deal of time and a great deal of political capital to get that done. >> the white house says a few things about this. one thing is he has his coalition that elected him by a strong margin behind him and they'll amplify that coalition as much as they can to try and push action, but they're looking at this as a three-track deal and the immigration reform measures they'll start pushing plus gun control. >> in four or five months he becomes a lame duck president. >> pretty much. >> we'll come back to you guys later in the show and i want to talk about what happened in the gop retreat, as well. >> coming up, though, 50 years ago she predicted america would not see an african-american president in her lifetime. maya angelou will join me in just a few minutes. >>> also the little girl that stood beside president obama as he unveiled the new gun proposals and the letter that helped move a president to action. 8-year-old
but with the folks back home, that we can actually deal with these things, take the small one first, debt ceiling last, i think it's a rational, reasonable thing to do. >> now, for some, wolf, maybe even those in the republican house leadership, like him talking about what is rational and reasonable, that may be a bit jarring but the house republicans are coming out of their three-day retreat saying they have a better chance of reaching their goal of broad spending cuts. and that means not making the demand in the next few weeks, which is exactly what it would mean because, according to most economists, we will hit that debt ceiling mid-february. >> so here's the question, bottom line, is is this a sure thing? will congress actually vote to raise the debt limit next week? >> well, there is a catch. the house gop, the leadership at least says what they are going to try to pass next week would raise the debt ceiling for three months but with a condition. and that would be that the house and senate pass budgets. it may seem simple but house republicans like to point out that they haven't passed a bu
's some type of deal on not slamming-- or raising the debt ceiling, just the tone, jay carney saying he's encouraged and the republicans trying to beat a deadline and things might be different. >> sure, i don't think anyone in this town is under any illusion, and magically the republicans and democrats are coming together and solve all of these big problems and singing kumbayah. but there are a host of things where they want to come together and find some common ground and the debt ceiling might be one of them, but the republicans have some caveats to that and want to make sure that the senate democrats pass a budget. something they haven't done in the last four years and put some heat on the democrats right there. even as both sides are talking about coming together on some of this, there's going to be an edge to it as well. let's not forget the president is still dealing with high unemployment. and wants to focus on gun control, immigration reform and get those done in the second term and still got things left over from the first term. stubbornly high unemployment said he's going to c
to add the 14th amendment to have the president do something to avert this curious problem with the debt ceiling. they don't agree with either of those two approaches because those two approaches have a role for the president and they say the president has no role here. it's all congress dealing with bills they've already i mean spending they've already done. that's the difference in posture. >> schieffer: do you think that the big fight is going to be over whether to raise the debt celling or over the so quealdso-called scwels if you sequester and that is to avoid these cuts in the program. >> there's a big fight among republicans about this because the debt celling is more powerful because the pain is if we blow the debt ceiling is real. for some republicans because the pain is so big -- >> schieffer: what would be the impact on the defense department, rajiv, if the cuts goes into effect. >> it takes us back to level of defense spending we had back in 2006 and 07. it's far more than we're spending in 2001. yes, there will be jobs furloughed, there will be weapons system but we won't
to dealing with the democrats on the issue of debt and much more. ohio senator rob portman is here. and what do you make of obama, only 2006 a vote against the debt ceiling. >> it went further than that. he said it would be unpatriotic. >> sean: that's another, i actually have that clip. you want to see it. >> sure. >> sean: let's show the videotape. >> the problem is, is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from 5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents, number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so we now have over 9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that's irresponsible. it's unpatriotic. >> sean: now at 16 trillion and $52,000 for every man, woman and child without unfunded liability. >> i posted 6 trillion dollars ago actually. another thing that he said, sean, i think is equally important, this means republicans don't want to pay our bills. i think he's missing the point entir
congress to up the debt ceiling. of course what he said is, i know the republicans want to try to get some sort of spending cuts and stuff like that. i'll deal with it. just not over this. >>gretchen: so yesterday how has he changed now that he's president and he's been in a couple of these debt ceiling fights with republicans? another one is coming up in march. many people believe it is the only leverage the republicans hold in any kind of discussions about cutting spending. the president changing his tune now. listen to this. >> america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. >>steve: so it was irresponsible for president bush to run up a huge bill. and now that he's president, it's irresponsible if the congress doesn't give him the blank check. let's just point out a couple of things. president bush all by his lonesome racked up about $5 trillion in debt. in eight years. pre
. president, what's the deal with the debt? i've been hearing a lot about the debt ceiling. what's my family's share? i'm just a kid. when i'm a grownup, i understand it could be hundreds of thousands of dollars. could you guys please cut spending now? >> brian: if you want to know if that is going to happen today, see if rand paul's grandson will be in there or somebody like that. if there's a republican child or michael j. fox's character, michael keating. >> gretchen: that would be a good one. let's talk about what the new york state has done now and governor cuomo. he immediately went on the attack to try and pass very expansive gun law legislation because many people are saying he wants to run for president next time around and he also was very concerned about the issue. but some people are saying this morning that what they passed last night is full of holes. we want to show you a graphic of a particular kind of weapon that has been banned, a rifle. this is a baneli 1 rifle. the reason it's banned is because you can see how you hold on to the gun there. that's called a military style g
in the debt ceiling would enable them to come to some sort of a deal not without caveats on spending. turk turk tied to. the budget. the senate hasn't in three years. unless the senate comes up with a budget by april 15th. no more pay for members of congress. which might be a stimulus of its own kind. >> alisyn: there is a new fox news poll about how americans are feeling about this. all of our budget battles. here is the question we asked. is government spending being managed carefully or out of control? not surprisingly now 83% of you say that it is out of control verses just 11% who say it's managed carefully and those numbers have become more extreme in the past two and three years. >> here is another big question we asked you fox news poll should the debt limit be raised again? of course it's been raised every year. the majority of you said only after major cuts are put in place. 69%. yes, it would be reckless not to raise the debt ceiling. >> which of course is president obama's position, 23% one there because he says this is like we have run up our credit card bill. this is like not
the negotiations should take place? should be the debt ceiling or the continuing resolution to fund the government or sequestration? caller: the continuing revolution to keep the government going -- resolution. there are many departments we don't need. i was showing my grandchildr the debt clock, telling him how much money he would know when he becomes a taxpayer. he said he does not want to become a taxpayer. this is taxation without representation. they have to get this under control. they need a dyiet. host: jason is a democratic caller in brooklyn, new york. caller: i think the debt is negotiable. it has been high before. host: what did you say? caller: it ought to be negotiable. i think obama needs to the finish his job. spending programs for poor neighborhoods and give other people a chance in this country. the tea party and right-wing republicans, it is obvious they are racist and nobody wants to work with them. in the next four years they have to get it right, because asians, hispanics, and african-americans make up the majority of this country now. so they had better get it right. host: t
are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending under control. >> it's a compelling message saying we ned to pay the bills we've racked up. of it messes the whole point again. think of it in terms of a credit card. in you have a son or daughter who exceeds the limit, the first thing you do is rip up the card, the second thing you do is you say you need to change your spending habits. >> reporter: they say we need to a just what bills we are paying and how they are paying. jon: the issue of depending on disaster relief could provide tkraeupl drama there on capitol hill. >> reporter: speaker john boehner promised that the house would take up sandy relief bills
of the debt ceiling, but because they want a credible deficit reduction plan, and the president doesn't seem to be interested in actually coming up with a credible way to deal with the amount of spending we are doing in this country. bill: if that is the says, doyoo many me, do you think it can get through the senate. >> i imagine harry reid under the direction of the president will try to block these things. i'm going to continue to cosponsor senator haopl me's plan. we have a spending problem in this country. they know it in wyoming, families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it's time for this senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and specifically the wasteful spending that continues. in the last hour stewart varney and martha talked about some of the abuses that continue to go on. people know that their tax dollars are being wasted. we need to get the spending under control. bill: two days ago brit hume told us this will be bloody, this battle. will it? >> the future of our country is at stake here and t
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